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Le secrétaire de la défense des Etats Unis Ashton Carter demande au Vietnam d'arrêter les travaux de remblaiement et de création des îles artificielles dans la mer de Chine méridionale. Il est en visite diplomatique au Vietnam actuellement, après avoir participé à 14th International Institute for Strategic Studies Shangri-la Dialogue qui s'est tenue au Singapour.

U.S. defense secretary to ask Vietnam to end land reclamation

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By LOLITA C. BALDOR - Associated Press - Sunday, May 31, 2015

HAIPHONG, Vietnam (AP) - U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter said Sunday he will urge Vietnamese officials to give up their reclamation projects in the South China Sea, making a direct plea after earlier calling for all countries in the Asia-Pacific region to halt the construction of artificial islands.

China’s rapidly expanding building projects has raised tensions and caused concerns among the United States and its regional partners.

Speaking to reporters during a stop at a Vietnamese Navy base, Carter said that all the claimants in the South China Sea must halt their reclamation and any further militarization of the sites. Those would include Vietnam, Malaysia, the Philippines and Taiwan, but their projects are dwarfed by China’s building program on reefs and atolls, which now totals more than 2,000 acres.

China is vigorously defending the projects in the face of persistent criticism from U.S. leaders, who say that the building programs will not provide Beijing any additional sovereign land. The U.S. and others are concerned that China will use the artificial islands as military bases and to assert control over navigation in the South China Sea.

Carter also toured a Coast Guard ship a day before his scheduled meetings with Vietnamese leaders. Other topics expected to come up are maritime weapons sales

Carters’ comments come in the wake of disclosures that China had placed two motorized artillery vehicles on one of its reclamation sites. Officials have said the artillery has been moved.

This is Carter’s first trip to Vietnam as defense secretary, and the first time a U.S. defense secretary has visited a Vietnamese Navy base or toured a military ship.

Two years ago, U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta visited the former U.S. air and naval base at Cam Ranh Bay in Vietnam and went on board the USNS Richard E. Byrd, a cargo ship operated by the U.S. Navy’s Military Sealift Command.

Carter said he planned to talk with Vietnamese officials about ongoing efforts by the U.S. to provide maritime defensive weapons to the country.

Last October the U.S. partially lifted its ban on weapons sales to Vietnam to boost the country’s ability to defend itself in the South China Sea. Only the sale of lethal maritime security and surveillance capabilities are allowed on a case-by-case basis, including boats and air assets based on an evaluation of Vietnam’s needs. But to date no weapons have flowed to Vietnam.

U.S. Sen. John McCain said Saturday that the U.S. should gradually lift the weapons ban on Vietnam, amid heightened tensions with China over the reclamation projects.

China, Vietnam and other nations have conflicting claims over portions of the South China Sea. Both McCain and Carter attended an international security conference over the weekend in Singapore, where Carter urged the halt to reclamation projects by all in the region.

McCain, chairman of the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee, said the U.S. should provide additional defensive weapons that could be used in case of a conflict with China. He added that the U.S. should continue its ban on weapons used for crowd control or to commit human rights abuses.

Carter said the U.S. will continue to discuss changes to the arms ban. He said the U.S. has some latitude to provide maritime weapons, including ships, now, but, “we’d obviously benefit from more latitude but we’d need legislative approval to do that” as well as endorsements from the administration.

Copyright © 2015 The Washington Times, LLC.

L'Admiral Jianguo SUN de la marine chinoise, également le Chef adjoint de l'Etat Major chinois, a prononcé un discours à 14th International Institute for Strategic Studies Shangri-la Dialogue, qui prompte pour une collaboration "Construire ensemble, profiter ensemble, gagner ensemble" avec les pays voisins en Asie tout entier. Il rappelle que la Chine ne changera pas sa détermination de défendre sa souveraineté et ses intérêts maritimes. La Chine ne croit pas et ne pliera pas à une quiconque superpuissance, et critique vivement la provocation des Etats Unis dans la région.

SUN avec le secrétaire de la défense Ashton Carter

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Le secrétaire de la défense des Etats Unis Ashton Carter demande au Vietnam d'arrêter les travaux de remblaiement et de création des îles artificielles dans la mer de Chine méridionale. […] la Chine ne changera pas sa détermination de défendre sa souveraineté et ses intérêts maritimes. La Chine ne croit pas et ne pliera pas à une quiconque superpuissance, et critique vivement la provocation des Etats Unis dans la région.[…]
Pourtant les USA ne semblent-ils pas ici abonder dans le sens des Tinois en tentant de modérer le Vietnam dans son entreprise ? scratch
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DahliaBleue a écrit:

Pourtant les USA ne semblent-ils pas ici abonder dans le sens des Tinois en tentant de modérer le Vietnam dans son entreprise ? scratch  

Entre le parole et l'acte il y a une sacrée différence.

Dans le fait, Ashton Carter donne 18M USD au Vietnam pour acheter des patrouilleurs, le Japon propose à l'ensemble des pays ASEAN d'effectuer des patrouilles sur zone avec ravitaillement japonais...etc.

Après, chacun fait ce qu'il entend.

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Obama: land reclamation projects in South China Sea 'counterproductive'

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama said on Monday that land reclamation projects in the South China Sea are unproductive and called for an end to aggressive action in the region.

"We think that land reclamation, aggressive actions by any party in that area are counterproductive," Obama said in a town-hall discussion at the White House with a group of young leaders from southeast Asian nations.

"China is going to be successful. It's big, it's powerful, its people are talented and they work hard. And it may be some of their claims are legitimate," Obama said.

"But they shouldn't just try to establish that based on throwing elbows and pushing people out of the way," he said.

(Reporting by Roberta Rampton; Editing by Bill Trott)

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) […] "China is going to be successful. It's big, it's powerful, its people are talented and they work hard. And it may be some of their claims are legitimate," Obama said.[…]
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Le Président des Philippines a prononcé un discours au Japon le 3 Juin et associe la Chine à l'Allemagne nazie de la 2nd guerre mondiale. Il demande également aux Etats Unis d'intervenir directement "en prenant ses responsabilités de super-puissance".

Le porte-paroles du Ministère chinois des affaires étrangères proteste et demande aux Philippines d'abandonner les illusions et de revenir à la table de négociation bilatérale.



Personnellement je trouve ceci ironique, aller dans un pays qui a fait parti des forces de l'Axe pour traiter un autre pays de nazi...

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La Chine semble avoir repris le contrôle effectif de l'îlot "Luconia Shoals" dans les Spratleys, qui est contrôlé par la Malaisie précédemment.

China Coast Guard vessel found at Luconia Shoals

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by Jenifer Laeng, reporters@theborneopost.com. Posted on June 3, 2015, Wednesday

MIRI: China has been detected encroaching on Malaysian waters at the Luconia Shoals, which are known as Gugusan Beting Patinggi Ali, located just 84 nautical miles from the coast here.
It is understood that a Chinese Coast Guard vessel has been anchored in the area for about two years.
“I had a meeting with the TLDM, MMEA, Wisma Putra and MKN (National Security Council) today (yesterday) with regards to the security of the South China Sea and the movement of illegal foreign fishermen there,” Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Seri Shahidan Kassim told a press conference at Miri Airport yesterday.
“With regards to the Gugusan Beting Patinggi Ali issue, we know that there is intrusion in the area, which is why we sent the TLDM (navy) and MMEA (Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency) to monitor the area 24/7 to ensure the sovereignty of the country.”
He pointed out that all foreign vessels would normally just pass through the area as they cannot anchor or stay in the area without permission.
He explained that one of the areas within Gugusan Beting Patinggi Ali had become a small island, which resulted in many parties being interested in it, possibly with the intention of encroachment.
Shahidan stressed that the area belongs to Malaysia and that the government will do whatever it takes to protect and defend Malaysian waters in the South China Sea from being encroached on by intruders or unlicensed foreign fisherman.
On illegal foreign fishermen and Suluk immigrants, Shahidan said the government viewed the matter seriously with the MMEA and navy collaborating on addressing the issue.
He said Sibuti member of parliament Ahmad Lai Bujang had highlighted the issued in Parliament.
“We will take action against illegal fishing boats that encroached on our waters because foreign fishermen’s boats are not allowed here,” he said.
Meanwhile, Shahidan suggested the area be developed for tourism as according to him the beautiful and crystal clear waters there are much better than at islands in the Maldives.
“I have recommended to the Ministry of Tourism and the Ministry of Tourism Sarawak for this place to be developed as a tourism attraction,” he said.
Gugusan Beting Patinggi Ali is one of the largest and least known reef complexes in the South China Sea.

Un navire de garde-côtes chinois, immatriculé 1123, photographié par un avion de patrouille maritime malais près de l'atoll.

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A la marée haute, l'atoll est long de 60m et large de 10m.

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Une étude du gouvernement malais sur les ressources naturelles autour de cet atoll de corail.

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Fin Mai début Juin, l'avancement de remblaiement dans 3 atolls de corail chinois :

Fiery Cross Reef - la fortification des contours se termine, la construction de la piste de 3000m continue.

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Subi reef - le remblaiement au Nord se termine, ça continue vers le Sud.

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Quelques photos pour montrer comment les travaux de remblaiement sont faits.

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Le 6 Juin 2015, 21 navires de garde-côtes taïwanais et 4 hélicoptères ont participé à l'exercice de démonstration à l'extérieur du port de Kaohsiung.

Durant cet exercice, le Président taïwanais ont annoncé l'admission au service actif de 2 navires de patrouille de 3000t, qui renforceront la capacité du Taïwan à défendre l'intérêt maritime du pays dans la mer de Chine méridionale. L'un des plus grands îlots dans les Spratleys est contrôlé par le Taïwan aujourd'hui.

http://www.cga.gov.tw/GipOpen/wSite/ct?xItem=85449&ctNode=650&mp=999

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La vie sur Fier Cross reef dans les Spratleys, avant les travaux de remblaiement.

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Venant de Forbes, c'est fort comme ton. En revanche la dernière remarque est bonne.

President Aquino Should Shut-Up On South China Sea: China Is Not Nazi Germany! -- The Philippines Has Other Priorities

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The situation in Asia Pacific generally and in the South China Sea in particular is explosive. There are several actors and tensions involved, including between the Philippines and China. When last year Philippines President Benigno Aquino compared China’s stance in the South China Sea to that of Nazi Germany’s annexation of the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia before the outbreak of World War II, it was inappropriate, irresponsible and inflammatory. To have done so again, in a speech in Tokyo on Wednesday 3rd June (see illustration below), borders on the incredulous. Aquino should shut up.

For starters the dynamics of the South China Sea are extremely complex. I recently read The South China Sea by Bill Hayton, sub-titled, The Struggle for Power in Asia. It is absolutely outstanding, fascinating, based on extensive research and very well-written. It underlines in detail the immense historical, legal, economic and environmental complexities that the South China Sea poses. To compare the South China Sea to the Sudetenland displays amazing ignorance, worrying on the part of the head of State of one of the countries concerned. The situation requires cool-heads, not saber-rattling hot-heads. Had he read Bill Hayton’s work Aquino would not have made such asinine remarks. The comparison of Nazi Germany and China is absurd and bears no scrutiny. Xi Jinping is no Hitler and the South China Sea is not the Sudetenland.

As inappropriate, irresponsible and inflammatory as the comparison was in the first place, repeating it in Tokyo in the presence of hawkish Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is like bringing a match to one of the Asia Pacific’s potentially most explosive power kegs. Abe has been energetically revisionist in his approach to the history of Japan’s wars and invasions of China. Calling the Chinese Nazis will obviously delight one who wants the world to forget that actually in World War II Nazi Germany was Japan’s close ally.

Had Aquino read a bit more history he would have found that it was the Japanese, not the Chinese, who invaded and occupied the Philippines from 1942 to 1945, who killed, tortured and raped – and forcibly recruited thousands of Philippine women as sex slaves, what the Japanese euphemistically call “ianfu” (comfort women), into Japanese military run brothels (see illustration below). It was also the Japanese, not the Chinese, who ordered the 1942 Bataan Death March, in which thousands died from exhaustion, starvation, malaria and maltreatment. The Chinese died in the millions, both soldiers in battlefields and innocent civilians, seeking to prevent the world (including the Philippines) from being dominated and ruled by the Japan-Nazi Germany alliance.

Perhaps Aquino’s intention in making his inflammatory populist remarks was in the hope of distracting the attention of the Philippino people away from the poor economic and governance performance of the country’s leadership and elites over decades. The Philippines is an extreme case of a country with very high promise – estimated by the World Bank in the 1950s, among others, to become the star economy of East Asia – and abysmal performance. Aquino’s attitude to China may be one of unhealthy envy. In 1980 the Philippines GDP per capita ($1,868) was six-times that of China ($302); by this year China’s ($13, 800) is four-times that of the Philippines ($4,062). (source: IMF) Need one say more?

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Vietnam sends message to China with bid to buy fighter jets and drones

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Acquisitions would further militarise the territorial dispute in the South China Sea, where Beijing has reportedly been building up its presence.

Vietnam is seeking to upgrade its air defences by acquiring western fighter jets and drones, a move which would further militarise a dispute with Beijing over territorial claims in the South China Sea.

Hanoi is speaking to European and US contractors to buy jets, patrol planes and unarmed drones, Reuters reported on Friday.

Several countries claim islands and surrounding waters in the South China Sea, including Malaysia, Brunei, Vietnam, Taiwan and the Philippines. China claims most of the area. The naval corridor is an important shipping route and the region is thought to have oil and gas reserves.

Industry sources told Reuters that Vietnam was in discussions with Swedish defence contractor Saab, the European multinational Eurofighter, the defence wing of Airbus and US firms Lockheed Martin and Boeing. The companies and the Vietnamese foreign ministry did not confirm reports.

Carl Thayer, an analyst on the South China Sea at the Australian Defence Force Academy, said Vietnam already has Russian Sukhoi Su-27 and Su-30 fighter jets but its air force is in need of an upgrade.

“Vietnam badly needs modern maritime reconnaissance aircraft to patrol its vast maritime domain,” he said. “Reports that Vietnam has canvassed widely with European and American defence contractors fits its profile of extensive market research and bargaining for the best package deal.”

Vietnam spent $3.4bn (£2.2bn) on defence in 2013, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, and has close to half a million ground forces. Ian Storey, from Singapore’s Institute of South East Asian Studies, said Vietnam wants to reduce its military dependence on Moscow before the Chinese government puts pressure on Russia to reduce weapons sales.

“Although Hanoi knows that its military will always be outnumbered and outgunned by China’s, a strong navy and air force provides it with a limited deterrence and, if push comes to shove, the ability to give China a bloody nose in battle,” Storey said.

China has reportedly started building up its military presence on islands artificially created by land reclamation. On Monday, the secretary of the Australian defence department, Dennis Richardson, said Beijing’s rapid claim on contested islands “dwarfs what the other claimant states have done”.

The South China Sea disputes have already led to altercations. In May, Chinese and Vietnamese ships collided as Beijing tried to set up an oil rig. Vietnam released footage of a Chinese ship ramming and sinking a Vietnamese fishing boat.

Countries in the region have also tried to boost their claims to islands by constructing houses, schools and medical centres on them. The Ho Chi Minh City government’s website in Vietnam said that 180 citizens will be able to join a six-day tourism, fishing and seafood cruise to the contested Spratly archipelago this month.

It called the promotion “the big trip of your life, reviving national pride and citizens’ awareness of the sacred maritime sovereignty of the country”.

Vietnam launches 'sovereignty' cruise to South China Sea islands

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In special promotion, 180 Vietnamese will see parts of Spratly archipelago, a move likely to stoke dispute with China over South China Sea sovereignty

Vietnam is offering scores of patriotic citizens the holiday of a lifetime with a cruise to some of Asia’s most hotly contested islands, in a move likely to stoke its simmering dispute with Beijing over South China Sea sovereignty.

In a special US$800 promotion offer, 180 Vietnamese will get to see parts of the disputed Spratly archipelago later this month and take part in night fishing, visit a lighthouse and enjoy local seafood.

High-rollers will have VIP hotel rooms and can fly in on their private helicopters, according to the Ho Chi Minh City government’s website.

The elaborately worded offer is for a six-day cruise that will visit two reefs and two islands in the Spratlys, or Truong Sa in Vietnamese, which the country has occupied for some time despite rival claims.

It makes little attempt to disguise its political flavour, and comes as Vietnam pursues a bolder agenda in pushing its claims in the face of China’s own growing assertiveness.

“Travelling to Truong Sa ... means the big trip of your life, reviving national pride and citizens’ awareness of the sacred maritime sovereignty of the country,” the promotion said.

“Tourists will no longer feel Truong Sa as far away, the blue Truong Sa ocean will be deep in people’s hearts.“

Vietnam, the Philippines, Brunei and Malaysia each compete for jurisdiction of the Spratlys with China, which claims nine-tenths of the South China Sea, a vital global shipping lane with potentially vast energy reserves.

The cruise mirrors those offered by China on ships like its “Coconut Princess“, and illustrates a growing civilian presence in the South China Sea as countries vie to cement their competing claims.

China has been criticised for extensive reclamation work and moves to turn submerged rocks into man-made structures. The United States last week said Beijing had placed mobile artillery systems in contested territory.

Despite close party-to-party ties with Communist neighbour China and nearly $60 billion of annual trade, analysts say Vietnam has taken a harder line since a fresh territorial row erupted last year and wants to boost diplomatic and military alliances.

Its media ran news last month of the opening of a new school on the Spratlys, and Vietnamese troops stationed there joined counterparts from the Philippines in a soccer match.

The cruise is a trial run ahead of Vietnam’s tentative plans to put the Spratlys on its tourism map, including scheduled passenger flights, possibly this year.

The description reads like a brochure for a Caribbean holiday.

“See 300 species of coral creating wonderful reefs in sparkling colours, in ravishing, fantastic beauty,” it says. “Watch the sunrise over the ocean, and say goodbye to the sunset in the evening amid the immense sky and sea.”

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US struggles for strategy to contain China’s island-building

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Charles Clover in Beijing and Geoff Dyer in Washington

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China’s efforts to dredge new land on remote coral atolls in the South China Sea have left the US struggling to come up with a response.
For Washington, Chinese land-creation has helped make allies of former adversaries now fearful of military domination by an assertive China. The latest example was the trip to Vietnam last week by Ashton Carter, US defence secretary, who pledged US patrol craft to the Vietnamese navy.

But there is a limit to how far countries in the region are willing to present a united front to China, which has reclaimed 2,000 acres of land in the past 18 months, far outstripping all other claimants combined, according to Mr Carter. The Obama administration is also unsure about how strongly it should push back against what US officials see as a long-term Chinese plan to control the region’s waters.

China claims 90 per cent of the waters of the South China Sea, a position contested by neighbours including Vietnam, Malaysia and the Philippines. But the Obama administration is increasingly finding itself in the uncomfortable position of taking the lead in efforts to confront Beijing, while stumbling in diplomatic action to establish consensus in Southeast Asia on what to do.

“The obvious frustration for the US is that all the Southeast Asian countries, with the possible exception of the Philippines, do not want to make a choice between China, their main trading partner, and the US, the main provider of security in the region,” says Euan Graham of the Lowy Institute in Sydney.

The second problem is that each of these countries has occupied its own islands, and some are doing their own land reclamation. At the Shangri-La security summit last month Mr Carter called on all parties to stop land reclamation. Last year a similar appeal by the US went unheeded by all but the Philippines, and subsequently collapsed.

Other diplomatic efforts include a common “code of conduct” among the members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations — four of which have claims in the South China Sea — which would put a commitment not to reclaim land in legally binding language and place additional diplomatic pressure on China.

Asean is split between those countries that do not have claims, which are more China-friendly, and those that do. Meanwhile, China is seeking to deal separately with each claimant.

“In crude terms some might say they are doing divide and rule,” says Ong Keng Yong, former Asean secretary-general and now deputy chairman of the S Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore.

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Meanwhile, as China builds up its islands, others such as Vietnam and the Philippines continue their own island-building efforts. “They are all busy creating facts on the ground, so to speak,” says Mr Yong. “They are all creating a position for future bargaining.”

The Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei each claim some of the Spratlys, while China, Taiwan and Vietnam claim the whole chain. Vietnam occupies many more islands than China does.

However, China’s dredging efforts, which appear to be aimed at creating military facilities including a 3km runway capable of handling fighter jets, dwarfs the others. US analysts fear the next step is for China to claim airspace over the South China Sea by declaring an air defence identification zone once the runway is finished.

“The fear is that China will turn the Sea into a Chinese lake,” says Rajeev Ranjan Chaturvedy of the Institute of South Asian Studies in Singapore.

Faced with such a prospect and indecision among its friends, US officials admit they need to do more to challenge Chinese muscle-flexing, but there is no consensus yet within the Obama administration about how to respond.

Washington recently raised the temperature in the South China Sea by inviting a CNN crew on board a surveillance flight over islands claimed by China, and broadcasting radio challenges by Chinese military on the ground.

Beyond that, the administration is considering conducting what are known as “freedom of navigation” exercises where it would send warships into the waters around the reclaimed Chinese land features. The objective would be not to contest the specific territorial claims, about which the US says it remains neutral. Instead, the US would be showing that it does not recognise the sandbanks as islands with their own territorial waters. Under international law, nations control 12 nautical miles around islands and coasts.

However, the concern within the administration is that an overly aggressive US response could escalate tensions, alienate allies and partners in the region or even lead to an altercation with Chinese naval vessels.

Bonnie Glaser of the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington says that while freedom of navigation patrols do not hinge on “buy in” from regional powers, broader diplomatic efforts do.

“It’s important for the US to have support for its actions in the South China Sea, if not from all Asean members then from a key core group,” she says. “In the absence of adequate consultations, diplomatic initiatives fail.”

But such co-operation remains a distant goal, says Mr Graham. “Southeast Asia for the US is something of a fickle audience because no one wants to get too far out in front — everyone has a different idea of the sweet spot they’d like to occupy between the US and China.”

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Le Chef d'état major adjoint de l'armée chinoise Le vice-président de la commission militaire centrale est aux Etats Unis actuellement. Dans la discussion avec le Secrétaire de la défense des Etats Unis Ashton Carter, FAN a demandé aux Américains de réduire le nombre des opérations militaires dans la mer de Chine méridionale.



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La marine chinoise et la marine vietnamienne ont effectué une patrouille commune dans le Golfe de Tonkin il y a quelques jours.



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[…] Dans la discussion avec le Secrétaire de la défense des Etats Unis Ashton Carter, FANG a demandé aux Américains de réduire le nombre des opérations militaires dans la mer de Chine méridionale.[…]
Qui est-ce, déjà, ce Fang ? scratch
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Le récif de Fiery Cross vu par le satellite TerraSAR-X d'Airbus D&S le 10 Juin 2015 : On voit que la piste fait plus de 3100 m de long pour 100 m de large. Le remblaiement du récif a commencé il y a exactement un an, et a atteint une superficie de 2,79 km².

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Le porte-paroles du Ministère chinois des affaires étrangères annonce que les travaux de remblayage dans les atolls de corail en mer de Chine méridionale vont bientôt terminer, et la construction des installations militaires et civiles va commencer. Il précise que la liberté de navigation et de survol autour de ces îlots, suivant les règles internationales, ne sera pas impactée.



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Les garde-côtes des Philippines et du Taïwan étaient en confrontation près de la province de Batanes le 6 Juin dernier. On entend dans l’enregistrement que les Philippines parlent du territoire alors que les Taïwanais parlent de la ZEE, à 23 miles nautiques de la côte.

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The coast guards of the Philippines and Taiwan were locked in a two-hour standoff in waters off Batanes more than a week ago after Taiwan declared it owned parts of Batanes. - ANC, The World Tonight, June 15, 2015

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Selon un communiqué de la MSA (Maritime Safety Administration) chinoise, la plateforme de forage sous-marin HAI YANG SHI YOU 981 (Océan Pétrole 981) mènera des opérations de forage à 17°03.75N 109°59.05E, dans les Paracels, du 25 Juin au 20 Août. La zone de 2000m autour de la plateforme sera restreinte à la navigation.

La même plateforme avait provoqué des émeutes anti-chinoises au Vietnam précédemment.

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琼航警0029  南海  2015年6月25日至8月20日,“海洋石油981”钻井平台在17-03.75N 109-59.05E处进行钻井作业,禁止驶入其2000米范围内。

HN0029 SOUTH CHINA SEA  DRILLING WORK BY M/V  “HAI YANG SHI YOU 981” IN 17-03.75N 109-59.05E FROM 25 JUN  TO 20 AUG 15.  ENTERING PROHIBITED WITHIN 2000 METRES RADIUS OF IT . HAINAN MSA  CHINA.

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