La Marine du Pérou - de 1895 à...

Depuis quelques mois, je me suis inscrit sur le Forum Navalism
Un Forum avec une autre carte du monde et des états revus et corrigés. Des iles inventés...
Je m'y suis inscrit car J'aime bien créer des navires avec SpringSharp2 et la plus grande puissance est "La France".

Dans la conception, nous respectons a peu près l'évolution technologique.
Nous sommes actuellement en 1915 et les Prédreadnought sont démodés mais toujours utilisés, surtout pour les petits états.
Les cuirassés grandissent et certains pays ont dépassés les 30 000t.
Je pense que vers 1925 -1930, nous devrions avoir en service des navires de 50 000t ou plus (nous rejetons toutes formes de traités).

J'ai pris le Pérou en 1908 mais j'ai construit l'Armada depuis 1895
En 1914, sont entrés en service dans l'Armada, le cuirassé Atahualpa
http://www.navalism.org/index.php?topic=2217.0

et le croiseur cuirassé Shinchi Roca.
http://www.navalism.org/index.php?topic=2695.0

...

Si cela vous inspire, que vous aimez les canons et que SpringSharp ne vous fait pas peur, Il y a encore des états de libres.


Jef

Très intéressant!

En plus, les états incluent des données militaires terrestres et aériennes ainsi qu'une construction économique et politique... Même si ce n'est pas complet, d'ici quelques mois çà va devanir carrément passionnant!

Ca a l'air vachement bien mais :

- c'est tout en anglais
- reste plus grand chose comme pays
- et la période est moins intéressante à mon sens que l'entre-deux-guerres ( notamment pour les avions )

En plus, c'est quoi cette Grande Colombie qu'a mangé Cuba ?

C'est super interessant comme truc. Moi un petit pays me conviendrait parfaitement. Hélas mon anglais est trop pauvre...

Pour les avions, cela commence
Le Pérou dispose de la technologie de 1910
Je suis allié avec la Gran Colombie, Nation Unitad del Suz american (Argentine étendue) et Ibéria (Brésil)
Un traité d'assistance militaire garantie paix et assistance mutuelle à l'Amérique du Sud.

Lors de la guerre entre la Turquie et la Grèce en 1912, Ibéria a demandée à ses alliés, NUS et Pérou d'envoyer une escadre pour protéger ses possessions aux Philipines.
Un sacré voyage depuis Callao. Gran Colombia nous a joint ses ravitailleurs d'escadre pour le voyage.

Pour les avions, Les Modos viennent de commencer le dévelopement des technos (1915) pour arriver aux porte-avions.
Voici la composition de mes forces aériennes en ce début de 1915
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Talara Airfield: 24 single-engine aircraft (12 active - 12 mobilized)

Chimbote Airfield: 40 single-engine aircraft (20 active -20 mobilized)

Callao Airfield: 40 single-engine aircraft (20 active -20 mobilized)

Pisco Airfield: 40 single-engine aircraft (20 active -20 mobilized)
Arica Airfield: 30 single-engine aircraft (15 active -15 mobilized)

Autofagasta Airfield: 24 single-engine aircraft (12 active - 12 mobilized)
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Chimbote, Callao et Pisco étant des bases navales, le groupe aérien est plus important.

Moi aussi Hercule, mon anglais est simpliste mais ce qui compte le plus , c'est le réalisme des créations et de l'histoire.

Bon, c'est vrai, Ils m'on dragués pour prendre un pays, mais ils connaissaient les Jef's Panzershif Studies...

Intéressant

Est-ce qu'il y a des regles ? Qui est chargé de les faire appliquer ? Comment empecher les gens de faire n'importe quoi ?

Rules
http://www.navalism.org/index.php?board=2.0

Il y a 3 Modos. Le plus actif est
The Rock Doctor - Canada
Des membres très actifs et de bon conseils:
Borys - Polonais
Korpen - Pays bas
Guiness - USA

Je crois que je suis le seule French actif

et je défend le Pérou

En ce début de 1915, voici la Flotte Péruvienne

Status of Armada 1915 H1

Total Armada: 148.580t

First Battle Squadron – Mobilized - Callao
BB18000t - Atahualpa
AC8000t - Shinchi Roca - Shakedown until April 1915
EC6000t - Tapac Yupanqui
RC3400t - Amazonas
TB1000t - Arica
TB1000t - Mejilones
TB1000t - Capt Marcona
TB1000t - Pisco
TB1000t – Camiri - Shakedown until April 1915
TB1000t – Guaqui - Shakedown until April 1915

Second Battle Squadron – Reserve - Pisco
BB10400t - Cuzco
BB10400t - Inti
BB10400t – Illapa – refit Pisco FDD
EC4700t - Pachacutec
EC4800t - Inca Roca
SC2000t - Choapa
SC2000t - Atacama
TB750t - Caravani
TB750t - El Alto
TB750t - Sucre
TB750t - Cochabamba

Third Battle Squadron – Active - Chimbote
BB12300t - Autofagasta
BB12300t - LaPaz
EC4800t - Yahuar Huacac
RC3400t - Tarapaca
SC2000t - Loreto
SC2000t - Puira
TB750t - Sucre
TB750t - Cochabamba
TB750t - Potosi
TB750t - Oruro
TB750t - Montero
TB750t - Trinitad

FT3500t - Nevado Pisco – Callao - A
FT3500t - Nevado Huaytapallana -Pisco - R
FT3500t - Nevado Huascaran - Callao - Shakedown until April 1915

Coastal Squadron - Mobilized
TB410t – Maria - Chimbote
TB410t - Cartagena - Chimbote
TB410t - Esmeraldas - Pisco
TB410t - Guayaquil - Pisco
TB410t – Calama - Pisco
TB450t - Tocopilla - Autofagasta
TB450t - Iquique – Pisco - Refit
TB450t - Pisagua – Pisco - Refit
TB450t - La Guaira - Callao
TB410t - David - Callao
TB410t - Cali - Chimbote
TB410t - Barranquilla - Chimbote


PB125t - Rio Nevati - Talara
PB125t - Rio Pozulo – Pisco - Minesweeping modifications
PB125t - Rio Yucuyali - Paita
PB125t - Rio Pisquit – Pisco - Minesweeping modifications
PB125t - Rio Marano - Pisco
PB125t - Rio Apurimac – Pisco - Minesweeping modifications
PB125t - Rio Hualagua – Camino
PB125t - Rio Puruis – Pisco - Minesweeping modifications

SS250t - Santa Ana - Callao
SS250t - Santa Cruz - Callao
SS250t - San Ignacio - Callao
SS250t - Santa Maria - Callao
SS500t - San Domingo – Callao - Shakedown until May 1915
SS500t - San Felipe – Callao - Shakedown until May 1915

Bien fait!
Je pense me basez sur tes etudes.
En effet, Nortland est a la veille d'une guerre contre l,amerique du sud
Donnes nous encore plus d,infos
Les Guerre 1/1250 se jouent sur le scenario editeur de Harpon 3
Et combats sur terre se joent sur l'art de la guerre et advanced tacticx

1915 - Statut of the High Sea Fleet








Jef

Ah, c'etait le bon temp

Actuellement en construction dans le Dry Dock type 2 (170m) à Callao,
le croiseur Antisuyu

(remarquez la disposition "side alterned" des 8x6' guns)




Jef

Petite question : quel avantage as tu à positionner les affuts comme ça ?

J'espère qu'il n'imaginait pas rendre battant de chaque bord les deux canons... Car vu que leurs tourelles sont ouvertes, le personnel artilleur risquerait d'être bousculé par le souffle de la pièce du bord opposée...

lowlow a écrit:

J'espère qu'il n'imaginait pas rendre battant de chaque bord les deux canons... Car vu que leurs tourelles sont ouvertes, le personnel artilleur risquerait d'être bousculé par le souffle de la pièce du bord opposée...

heuh..........
je dirais meme plus que bousculé !
je dirais plutot au minimum gravement choqué par le souffle,....mais plus surement brulé par les "flammes" de tirs.........

Le tir sur le bord opposé peut se faire à certains angles, les 2 pièces ont bien sur le même angle, les tirs en alternance (babord puis tribord) sont indispensable et necessite un équipage bien entrainé.


Jef

1915 - Niveaux technologiques (en bleu) du Pérou

Naval Propulsion
1895 Baseline(0): Complex Reciprocating Engines, Engine Year 1900
1902 Advanced (+1): Engine year 1905, Max. Turbine power 5000HP/Shaft,
Direct-drive Turbines
1905 Cutting Edge (+3) Engine year 1909, Max. Turbine power 12000HP/Shaft
1909: Engine year 1912, Max. Turbine power 20000HP/Shaft
1913: Engine year 1916, Max. Turbine power
1917: Engine year 1920, unlimited power/shaft
1922: Engine year 1925
1927: Engine year 1930

miscellaneous propulsion technology:
1900 Underway Recoaling
1906 Oil-firing boilers
allows bunkers with larger than 10% percentage for oil
1906 Electric Propulsion
1912 Geared Drives
1912 Capital Ship Diesel Engines
1915 Underway Refueling

BB/AC Architecture
1880 Dated: Main guns in twin turrets, secondaries in casemate
1890 Baseline (0): Mixed main armament or AQY with double turrets+casemates
1904 Advanced (+1): All-big-gun ship with wing turrets, improved turret hydraulics,
Torpedo Bulkheads
1906 Cutting Edge (+3): Superfiring turrets, all centerline, triple turrets - T3x340 jan 1915
1911: Improved protection schemes (e.g. AoN), quad turrets, turreted secondaries (double time)
[Secondaries are 4-7" guns. 8-10" medium-caliber guns are not secondaries, but medium-caliber main guns

Light Cruiser Architecture
1880 Baseline(0): guns in single mounts or casemates, on side/centerline
1900 Advanced(+1): ammunition hoists, deck torpedo armament, superfiring mounts
1910 Cutting Edge (+5): twin gun mounts
1920: turrets and barbettes
Twin gun mounts requires hoists, and they are power operated. Their armor is limited to splinter protection - 1".
Battleship Architecture is not valid for guns 6.5" and smaller. To have armored turrets with small guns, this technology is required.

Destroyer and TB architecture
1880 Baseline (0): single TTs - max 4, displacement 500t
1904 Advanced (+1):double TTs - max 8, displacement 750t
1908 Cutting Edge (+3): triple TTs - max 12, displacement 1000t,
1912: max displacement 1500t, 1918: quad TTs, 2000t
The delicate DD engines need additional research. Also Torpedoes and reloads must be accounted for in the misc. weight in the SpringSharps.
Every ship that is built with a composite strength less than 1.00 - light fast combatant especially - is considered a destroyer.

Armor technology
1880 Cast Iron -20%
1890 Compound -10%
1900 Krupp Cemented 0
1915 All Imp. KC types +10%

Torpedo Technologies
1890 Primitive (-2) : 800m@26kts range, 50kg warhead (-1 dam.), compressed air 0.5t, 16" dia.
1890 Dated (-1): 1200@26, 400@35, 100kg warhead (+0 dam.), compressed air 0.5t, 16"
1899 Baseline (0):3000@26, 1500@30, 100kg warhead(+0 dam.), early wet heater 1t, 18"
1905 Advanced (+1): 5000@26, 2200@35, 100kg warhead, imp. wet heater, 1t, 18"
1908 Cutting Edge (+3): 7000@26, 3000@35, 100kg warhead, imp. wet heater, 1t, 21"
1913: (+5) 15000@26, 10000@30,7000@35, 200kg warhead (+1), 2t, 21"
1918: (+ 20000@26, 15000@30, 10000@35, 300kg warhead (+2) 3t weight, 24"
These are max capabilities. If there's a historical torpedo with less weight and lower performance, you can use that.

Electric Torpedo Proplusion
1905: 2000@20/1000@30, +0 damage, 2t
1914 3000@20/1500@30, +1 damage, 2t
1925 4000@25/2500@35, +1 damage, 2t
1935 5000@30/3500@35 +1 damage, 2t
Submarines

Submarines
Tech years are 1900, 1905,
1910,
1915,
1920. You can build the corresponding subs stats given in the following table (if you have the required IC engine technology, that is):

Mine Warfare
1890: long stick and Very Slow Forward. Hand detonated mines
1900 Baseline (0): primitive paravanes and dragged booms behind small vessels. Horn mines.
1908: Advanced (+1): advanced paravanes, active charges. Reliable horn mines, early antenna mines.
1918: Reliable antenna mines.
1922: Unreliable magnetic mines & countermessures.

Naval Artillery Shells
1880 Primitive(-2): Solid shot
1890 Dated (-1): High Explosive
1895 Baseline (0): Semi Armour-Piercing
1905 Advanced (+1): Armour-Piercing
1908 Cutting Edge (+3): Capped shells
1916: Improved capped shells

ASW
1910: ASW tactics, primitive depth charges
1916: hydrophones, improved depth charges
1926: further improvements

Night fighting
1908: basic tactics, searchlight, night scopes
1912: starshell + improved tactics
1918: Illuminating shells with parachute, improved night scopes

Rangefinding, Fire Control and Gunnery(development takes twice as long as a normal tech)
1908: centralized FC, early directors - 12kyd
1912: primitive FC computers -18kyd
1918: Central director stations, long base-length RF - 24kyd
1928: Search radars, spotting planes, electromechanical FC computers - 30kyd

Radar technology (double-time tech)
1905: Advanced (+1): Early Huelsmeyer-type "radar", listening dishes, War tuba's.
1915: Cutting Edge (+3): refined Huelsmeyer-type "radar"
1925: Futuristic (+5): primitive "modern" search RADAR

Line Infantry Weapons
1870 Primitive (-2) Rating 2 Artillery 0.5
1885 Dated (-1) 3/1
1895 Baseline (0) 4/2
1905 Advanced (+1) 5/3
1915 Cutting Edge(+3) 6/4

Special Units Weapons (Cavalry/Light&Mountain Infantry Weapons - more mobile than Line INF, with half the Artillery rating)
1870 Primitive (-2) Rating 2 Artillery 0
1885 Dated (-1) 3/0.5
1895 Baseline (0) 4/1
1905 Advanced (+1) 5/1.5
1915 Cutting Edge (+1) 6/2

Army Reserves
1895 Dated (-1): Can maintain one reserve unit per 2 active strength units
1900 Baseline (0): Can maintain one reserve unit per one active strength unit
1905 Advanced (+1): Can maintain two reserve units per one active strength unit
1910 Cutting Edge (+3): Can maintain three reserve units per one active strength unit OR at General Mobilization can begin moving units from depots on day 5

CBR warfare:
1880 Baseline(0) Blankets with smallpox, trebuchets with dead animals.
1905 Advanced (+1): Tear-producing substances, chlorine,plague fleas and rats etc.
1910 Cutting Edge (+3): Phosgene
1915: Futuristic (+5) mustard gas, anthrax spores
1920: Terrifying (+7) Early nerve gases,

Heavier-than-air crafts
Baseline: None, perhaps a few private experimenters with gliders
1902 Advanced: Primitive flying machines: Wright Flyer, Langly Aerodrome etc. 1906 historical year
1906 Cutting Edge: Historical 1910 aircraft level
1910: hostirical 1914 aircrafts
1913: historical 1916 aircrafts
1915: historical 1918 aircrafts
1920: historical 1922 aircrafts
1928: historical 1930 aircrafts

Dirigible airships
Dated: None
1898 Baseline: Type 0: Volume 10 000m³ nonrigid airships, 30kts
1905 Advanced (+1): Type 1 Volume: 20 000m³ and 4 tons military payload over 700 nm speed 40 kts
1910 Cutting Edge (+3) : Type 2 Volume: 40 000m³ and 9 tons military payload over 1200 nm speed 50 kts
1915: Type 3 Volume: 70 000m³ and 16 tons military payload over 2200 nm speed 60 kts
1920: 4 Volume: 130 000m³ and 31 tons military payload over 3900 nm speed 65 kts
1925: Volume: 210 000m² and 60 tons military payload over 5200 nm speed 70 kts

Anti-aircraft gun and altitudes
Baseline (0): High angle anti-ballon guns or machine guns (up to 1 pounders) = 1,000 feet - starting point for everyone.
High-angle anti-balloon guns are perfect for that role.
1908 Advanced (+1): High angle anti-air guns (20-40mm) = 5,000 feet
1914 Cutting Edge (+3): High angle artillery (40-80mm) = 15,000 feet
1925 Futuristic (+5): High altitude artillery (80mm+) = 30,000 feet

Internal Combustion Engines (Land, submarines, and air)
Dated (-1): none
1895 Baseline (0): Gas, petrol(gasoline) and alcohol-fueled engines up to 20HP
1900 Advanced (+1): Land and airship engines up to 200HP, 50HP aeroplane engines
1905 Cutting Edge(+3):Diesel engines, Land, airship and naval engines up to 750HP, 75 HP aeroplane engines
1910 Futuristic (+5): IC engines up to 2000HP, 120HP Aeroplane engines (1910)
1914: Engines up to 3000HP, 200HP Aeroplane engines (1916)
1920: Engines with no effective limit on max output (1920), Aeroplane engines 300HP

Amphibious Technology
Baseline(0) lifeboats and the use of enemy harbors.
1905 Advanced (+1) shallow draft barges and shallow draft support ships
1910 Cutting edge (+3) LST ships
1920 Futuristic (+5) Landing support ships and LST carriers
1928 Ultimate (+7): Mulberry harbors and amphibious vehicles.

Railway guns
1900: Baseline (0): Railway guns of up to 120mm, armored trains
1905: Advanced (+1): Railway guns of up to 254mm
1910: Cutting Edge (+3): Railway guns of up to 356mm
1915: Futuristic (+5): Unrestricted calibre railway guns

Motorization
($0.5 and 0.25 BP per level of Motorization)
Baseline is granted automaticaly upon possession of both of the below:
1900 Advanced (+1): Land and airship engines up to 200HP, 50HP aeroplane engines
1895 Baseline (0) Line Infantry 4/2 or Special 4/1 Corps
1900 Baseline - 0; Experimental: A few cars and trucks have been bought by your army to see what they can do; everything else follows from this.1910 Advanced +1; Support Units: Several army support functions, but not all, such as HQ, logistics, artillery, etc have been equipped with trucks. This is the level that Nazi’s Germany’s infantry units were at during most of WW2; the Wehrmacht had more horses, mules and donkeys than the Kaisers army.
1920 Cutting edge +3); Uniform Support Motorization: Basically everything other than leg infantry now rolls to battle. This would be the level of the US infantry in WW2.
1930 Futuristic +5; Whole Motorization: The leg infantry now have wheels also.

Light Armor
(allows a lower level attachment (regiment or brigade or whatever your armies equivalent is) or independent formation that costs $2 per level plus a flat 1 BP)
1905 Advanced +1; Experimental Armored Cars: Someone in your army decided to slap a machine gun and some sheet steel onto one of those cars or trucks to see what it can do. This tech requires experimental motorization.
1910 Cutting edge +3; Armored Car Unit: A few units have been given armored cars; mostly for use in scouting.
1915 Futuristic +5; Basic Tankette: The need for better cross country mobility has led to use of tracks; 5 to 15 tons and no more than machine guns or light cannon. Reliability of the Tankette can be an issue. Still in numbers these can break trench lines.
1920 Way out +7; Improved Tankette: Faster and improved reliability of the Tankette; still a support unit and not a formation onto itself.

Heavy Armour
(allows a lower level attachment (regiment or brigade or whatever your armies equivalent is) or independent formation that costs $4 per level plus a flat 4 BP)
Requires Experimental Armored Cars or Motorized Support Units
1910 Advanced +1; Experimental Tank: Someone has decided that those armored cars or perhaps an artillery prime mover show the way to even larger mechanical monsters. The result is a tank like the British Mark I “Mother”, French St Chamond or German AV7; and just like there real world contemporary would be highly unreliable mechanically. Requires Experimental Armored Cars or Motorized Support Units
1915 Cutting edge +3; Basic Tanks: Can now build fairly reliable tanks in numbers and have the tactics to make use of them. This allows the production of something like the British Mark IV/V or German A7V/U (a mark IV clone).
1925 Futuristic +5; Improved Tanks: Much better mechanical reliability and designs; use of turrets instead of hull mounts, smaller crews, etc.
1935 Way Out +7; PzIII

Armada in 1916

1st BS


2nd BS


Coastal BS


Jef

Ca fait déjà une belle marine ! Comment tu te places par rapport à tes voisins ? En termes de tonnage et de puissance de feu ?

Voici la liste des BP - Building point -
1BP = 1000t de navire à construire pour 6 mois


New swiss – 16.5BP

Maoria – 10BP

Rohan – 27BP

Russia – 18.9BP

Ottomans – 9BP

Bavaria – 12.5BP

Netherland – 19BP

Habsburg – 17BP

Baltic Confederation – 23BP

Orange 21.5BP

Egypt – 4.5BP

Ukraine – 11.5BP

Deutcher Kaisereich Brandeburg – 19BP

Nassau Alliance

Italy – 11BP

UNK – 27.5BP

CSA – 24BP

France – 33BP

Total - 95.5 BP

Alliance de la Croix du Sud

Gran Colombia – 25BP

Iberia – 13.5BP

Peru – 6BP

NUS – 6.5BP





Je suis dans les petites marines...

Juillet 1916 -
Le Croiseur d"Escorte Inca Roca, Navire du Contre-Amiral Deganio,
en route pour renforcer la protection des Philippines avec son homologue Yahuar Huacac, 4 torpilleurs de 750t & un ravitailleur.
est "mis sur cales aux Jef's Shipyards - 1/700wl.

Suite dans le sujet "Maquettes et études"
...


Jef

2 croiseurs vont être mis sur cale en 1919H2 à Callao;

Lloque Yupanqui & Capac Yupanqui (Inca Empereurs)



7500t, NUS Light Cruiser laid down 1919 (Engine 1920)
Displacement:
7 500 t light; 7 817 t standard; 8 510 t normal; 9 065 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
557.74 ft / 557.74 ft x 55.77 ft x 22.27 ft (normal load)
170.00 m / 170.00 m x 17.00 m x 6.79 m
Armament:
12 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (6x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1919 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1919 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 1 312 lbs / 595 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 200
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.15" / 80 mm 433.07 ft / 132.00 m 8.99 ft / 2.74 m
Ends: 1.57" / 40 mm 124.67 ft / 38.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 119 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3.15" / 80 mm 1.57" / 40 mm 2.36" / 60 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
3rd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 1.57" / 40 mm, Conning tower: 3.15" / 80 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 76 000 shp / 56 696 Kw = 32.02 kts
Range 8 500nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 248 tons
Complement:
442 - 575
Cost:
£1.685 million / $6.740 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 164 tons, 1.9 %
Armour: 1 264 tons, 14.9 %
- Belts: 553 tons, 6.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 114 tons, 1.3 %
- Armour Deck: 569 tons, 6.7 %
- Conning Tower: 28 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 2 657 tons, 31.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 214 tons, 37.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 010 tons, 11.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 2.4 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
6 920 lbs / 3 139 Kg = 64.1 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
Metacentric height 2.6 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 14.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.48
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.15
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.430
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 20.67 ft / 6.30 m
- Mid (50 %): 17.39 ft / 5.30 m
- Quarterdeck (18 %): 17.39 ft / 5.30 m
- Stern: 17.39 ft / 5.30 m
- Average freeboard: 18.85 ft / 5.75 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 119.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 112.4 %
Waterplane Area: 19 534 Square feet or 1 815 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 96 lbs/sq ft or 467 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.59
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Here is the NUS Armada list & the localisation-
Note;
- The main Battleships are now in Atlantic, in the same Fleet.
- The new BB Paraguay (25265t) is going to be commissionned mid 1919.
1st April 1919
NUS ATLANTIC
1st BB div – Waskhar – 28000t, Atahualpa – 18000t - (Bahia Blanca)
3rd BB div – MaytaCapac - 16000t - (Bahia Blanca)
4th BB div - Veinticinco de Mayo - 14784t, AC Manco Capac – 13200t - (Bahia Blanca)
2ndAC div - San Carlos de Bariloche, Ciudad Jardín – 9475t - (Puerto Deseado)
1st CL div – Altair – 5600t - (Bahia Blanca)
2nd CL div – Antisuyu – 4300t - (Rio Gallegos)
3rd CL div – Toreador, Novillero – 4600t - (Puerto Deseado)
6th CL div - Nueva Russia, Nueva Francia – 4385t - (Rio Gallegos)
8th CL div – Tarapaca – 3400t - (Puerto Deseado)
9th CL div - San Luis, La Argentina – 4207t - (Rio Gallegos)
1stDD – Putre, Robore, Pica, Camiri – 1000t - (Bahia Blanca)
2ndDD - D200, D201, D202, D203 – 1000t - (Bahia Blanca)
3rdDD - D204, D205, D206, D207 - 1000t - (Bahia Blanca)
4thDD - D208, D209, D210, D211 – 1000t - (Bahia Blanca)
5thDD - D212, D213, D214, D215 – 1000t - (Puerto Deseado)
8thDD - D100, D101, D102, D103 – 750t - (Puerto Deseado)
9thDD - D104, D105, D106, D107 – 750t - (Rio Gallegos)
10thDD - D108, D109, D110, D111 – 750t - (Rio Gallegos)
Fleet Tenders - Nevado Pisco, Nevado Huaytapallana – 3500t - (Bahia Blanca)
Coastal Patrols
2nd PB – RB200, RB201 - 200t – (Rio Uruguay-Colon)
3rd PB - RB202, RB203 – 200t – Rio Uruguay-Colon)
1st PB - M200, M201 – 480t – (Rio de la Plata-Buenos Aires)
1st TD - La Rioja, Jujuy, Catamarca – 750t - (Bahia Blanca)
2nd TD – Chubut, Misiones, Salta – 750t - (Puerto Deseado)
3rd TD – Neuguen, Tucuman, Corrientes – 750t - (Rio Gallegos)
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NUS PACIFIC
5th BB div – Illapa, Inti, Cuzco – 10400t - (Callao)
1st AC div - Tupac Yupanqui – 6000t - (Callao)
3th- AC div - Gran Chaco, Cordillera, San Pedro – 5983t - (Callao)
4th AC div - Inca Roca, Yahuar Huacac, Pachacutec – 4800t - (Chimbote)
4th CL div - Nueva Alborada, Nueva Germania – 4385t - (Callao)
5th CL div - Nueva Italia, Nueva Londres – 4385t – (Pisco)
7th CL div – Amazonas – 3400t - (Callao)
11thDD - D112, D113, D114, D115 –750t - (Pisco)
12thDD - D116, D117, D118, D119 – 750t - (Callao)
6thDD – Arica, Mejilones, Captain Marcona – 750t - (Callao)
7thDD – Pisco, Camiri, Guaqui – 750t - (Callao)
8thTD – Caravani, Sucre, El Alto, Cochabamba – 750t - (Chimbote)
9thTD – Potosi, Oruro, Montero, Trinitad – 750t - (Pisco)
5SS – Sant Marcello, San Martino – 750t - (Callao)
5SS - Santa Anna, Santa Cruz – 500t - (Callao)
Fleet Tenders - Nevado Huascaran, Nevado Alpamayo – 3500t - (Callao)
Coastal patrols
1CTB – Maria, Cartagena – 410t - (Talara)
2CTB - Esmeralda, Guyaquil – 410t - (Callao)
3CTB - La Guaira, David – 410t - (Callao)
4CTB – Cali, Barranquilla – 410t - (Pisco)
5CTB – Calama, Tocopilla – 410t - (Pisco)
6CTB – Iquique, Pisagua – 410t - (Antofagasta)
1MN - Rio Nevati, Rio Pozulo -125t - (Talara)
2MN - Rio Yucuyali, Rio Pisquit – 125t - (Callao)
3MN - Rio Marano, Rio Apurimac – 125t - (Pisco)
4MN - Rio Hualagua, Rio Puruis – 125t - (Antofagasta)
1SS – Santa Anna, Santa Cruz - 250t - (Callao)
2SS - San Ignacio, Santa Maria – 500t - (Callao)
3SS - San Domingo, San Phelipe – 500t – (Chimbote)

Autre projet pour 1919


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Lloque Yupanqui, NUS AC laid down 1919 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
13 980 t light; 14 696 t standard; 15 631 t normal; 16 379 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
557.74 ft / 557.74 ft x 73.49 ft x 25.82 ft (normal load)
170.00 m / 170.00 m x 22.40 m x 7.87 m

Armament:
4 - 10.83" / 275 mm guns (2x2 guns), 661.39lbs / 300.00kg shells, 1919 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, evenly spread
4 - 10.83" / 275 mm guns (2x2 guns), 661.39lbs / 300.00kg shells, 1919 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, all amidships
8 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (4x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1919 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1919 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 5 721 lbs / 2 595 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 120
6 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7.87" / 200 mm 360.89 ft / 110.00 m 12.47 ft / 3.80 m
Ends: 1.57" / 40 mm 144.36 ft / 44.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
52.49 ft / 16.00 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 9.06" / 230 mm 3.35" / 85 mm 7.87" / 200 mm
2nd: 9.06" / 230 mm 3.35" / 85 mm 7.87" / 200 mm
3rd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 2.36" / 60 mm
4th: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
5th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

- Armour deck: 2.17" / 55 mm, Conning tower: 7.87" / 200 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 80 110 shp / 59 762 Kw = 29.00 kts
Range 7 000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 682 tons

Complement:
698 - 908

Cost:
£3.241 million / $12.963 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 688 tons, 4.4 %
Armour: 3 832 tons, 24.5 %
- Belts: 1 583 tons, 10.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 1 032 tons, 6.6 %
- Armour Deck: 1 111 tons, 7.1 %
- Conning Tower: 106 tons, 0.7 %
Machinery: 2 985 tons, 19.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 6 175 tons, 39.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 651 tons, 10.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 1.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
16 465 lbs / 7 468 Kg = 25.9 x 10.8 " / 275 mm shells or 1.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
Metacentric height 3.7 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 16.0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.65
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.517
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.59 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 52
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.93 ft / 7.60 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 21.98 ft / 6.70 m
- Mid (50 %): 18.37 ft / 5.60 m
- Quarterdeck (19 %): 18.37 ft / 5.60 m
- Stern: 18.37 ft / 5.60 m
- Average freeboard: 19.87 ft / 6.06 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 97.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 131.0 %
Waterplane Area: 27 739 Square feet or 2 577 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 145 lbs/sq ft or 707 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.93
- Longitudinal: 1.83
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent