coucou, j'ai trouvé ca:
apparament, c'est un never were, mais un VRAIE never were.
Un commandant (et designers) japonais des années 1916-1930 (il s'appelais kaneda), imagina un cuirassé de 500 000 tonnes ! voici les commentaires (en anglais) sur le navire:
IJN ship designer Commander Kaneda dreamed a monster 500000t battleship, anyway it was only be said the length and beam was 609m and 91m, 50 x 41cm twin 200 x 14cm singer and 200 torpedo tubes. the speed would be 42Knot!!!
Kaneda's 500,000 ton BB, Imperial Japanese Navy Monster Battleship laid down 1930
Displacement: 532,470 t light; 572,061 t standard; 598,940 t normal;
620,443 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(1,998.20 ft / 1,984.91 ft) x 262.47 ft (Bulges 298.56 ft) x (59.06 / 61.03 ft) (
609.05 m / 605.00 m) x 80.00 m (
Bulges 91.00 m) x (
18.00 / 18.60 m)
Armament:
100 - 16.14" / 410 mm 45.0 cal guns - 2,120.84lbs / 962.00kg shells, 200 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts , 1914 Model
14 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread 12 raised mounts, 36 x Single mounts on sides amidships, 2 raised mounts
200 - 5.51" / 140 mm 50.0 cal guns - 88.63lbs / 40.20kg shells, 400 per gun
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts , 1914 Model
158 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread, 44 raised mounts, 114 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas, 42 x Single mounts on sides amidships, 42 double raised mounts
100 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 40.0 cal guns - 12.94lbs / 5.87kg shells, 150 per gun, Anti-air guns in deck mounts , 1914 Model
88 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread, 60 raised mounts, 12 x Single mounts on sides amidships, 12 double raised mounts
Weight of broadside 231,104 lbs / 231,104 kg
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une pleine bordé de tirs aurait fait 230 tonnes d'obus tiré d'un coup 100 - 24.0" / 610 mm above water torpedoes .......
100 tubes lances torpilles .....c'est la flotte américaine qui n'aurait pas apprécier en cas de conflit
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13.8" / 350 mm 1,290.19 ft / 393.25 m 19.46 ft / 5.93 m
Ends: 5.91" / 150 mm 694.69 ft / 211.74 m 19.46 ft / 5.93 m
Upper: 5.91" / 150 mm 1,290.19 ft / 393.25 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 100% of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
3.94" / 100 mm 1,290.19 ft / 393.25 m 53.54 ft / 16.32 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 12.0" / 305 mm 6.00" / 152 mm 12.0" / 305 mm
2nd: 4.00" / 102 mm 2.00" / 51 mm 3.00" / 76 mm
3rd: 2.00" / 51 mm - -
- Armour deck: 5.00" / 127 mm, Conning tower: 16.14" / 410 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 6 shafts, 2,235,001 shp / 1,667,311 Kw = 42.00 kts
Range 15,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 48,382 tons
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2 000 000 de cheveaux de puissance.....il abusait du saké le gars
Complement:
10,764 - 13,994...........
ca en fait des marins
Cost:
£204.391 million / $817.564 million..........
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 42,865 tons, 7.2%
Armour: 140,015 tons, 23.4%
- Belts: 20,437 tons, 3.4%
- Torpedo bulkhead: 10,063 tons, 1.7%
- Armament: 71,831 tons, 12.0%
- Armour Deck: 35,212 tons, 5.9%
- Conning Tower: 2,471 tons, 0.4%
Machinery: 67,727 tons, 11.3%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 298,017 tons, 49.8%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 66,469 tons, 11.1%
Miscellaneous weights: 2,000 tons, 0.3%
- Hull below water: 2,000 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 939,833 lbs / 426,301 Kg = 446.9 x 16.1 " / 410 mm shells or 261.0 torpedoes
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446 obus de 410mm ou 261 torpilles pour le couler Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.41
Metacentric height 38.6 ft / 11.8 m
Roll period: 20.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.25
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.20
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a round stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.599 / 0.600
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.65 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 44.55 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6.50 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00%, 59.06 ft / 18.00 m, 49.21 ft / 15.00 m
- Forward deck: 30.00%, 49.21 ft / 15.00 m, 49.21 ft / 15.00 m
- Aft deck: 35.00%, 49.21 ft / 15.00 m, 49.21 ft / 15.00 m
- Quarter deck: 15.00%, 49.21 ft / 15.00 m, 49.21 ft / 15.00 m
- Average freeboard: 50.00 ft / 15.24 m
Ship space, strength and comments:Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 77.5%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 274.2%
Waterplane Area: 380,675 Square feet or 35,366 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 126%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 589 lbs/sq ft or 2,876 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.45
- Longitudinal: 1.00
- Overall: 1.10
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
une image de la bete: source image:
https://2img.net/h/i49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/CanisD/Never_Weres/Raw_Drawings/Japan/kaneda_s_500000t.jpg
p....., je savait pas que dans les années 1918-1923, les ingénieurs navals japonais se finissaient au saké tous les soirs...