oui le fond de la coque a été refondu avec l'acier recuperer des TwinTowers ... recyclage et symbole fort ... le pire aurait été que le premier de serie s'appele justement New York

moi j'ai une FIAT faite en acier refondu du RICHELIEU (symbole, souvenir sic.... )

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Toujours autant de probléme avec les EFV (les AAV ne sont pas prêt d'étre remplacer)

Citation:

(Source: US House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform; issued April 29, 2008) The Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle (EFV) program has been so mismanaged that a Congressional panel has called it “an embarrassment.” (USMC photo) In preparation for this hearing, [the committee] staff examined in detail one of the weapons acquisition programs identified in the GAO report: the Marine Corps' Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle (EFV). When the EFV project was launched in 1996, the goal was to build a new state-of-the-art amphibious tank for use by the Marines. But the program has been so badly mismanaged that the Defense Department now says they have decided to start the project over again from essentially square one. The story of the EFV acquisition is an embarrassment. Six years ago, Defense Department auditors called the project a "paper dream" and said "management does not have a handle on reality." They pointed out elementary flaws in the Marine Corps acquisition strategy, such as the failure to set a realistic schedule, the reliance on an expensive "test-fix-test" approach, and the lack of anyone with overall responsibility for integrating the various components of the project. But when a second set of auditors looked at the program four years later, they told us they saw "no improvement." They found "disarray, uncoordinated design decisions, reliability issues, and ... general lack of planning and status monitoring." A key milestone for the EFV occurred in 2006 when the vehicle was subject to a battery of tests called an "Operational Assessment." The EFV failed miserably. The prototype vehicles experienced over 600 breakdowns and could operate for only four hours before requiring extensive maintenance. We have obtained a copy of the report on the operational assessment. The list of problems it describes is nearly endless: - The vehicles weighed too much. - In the water, they could reach cruising speeds only if the Marines on board left their equipment behind. - On land, the gun turret bent and broke from the stress of cross-country movement. - There was "poor crew visibility during water operations" and the driver's vision was "periodically washed out by water spray." - The ammunition feed jammed and crews were "unable to identify vehicle targets." - The vehicles were so noisy that the Marines on board had to wear both earplugs and ear muffs and could not respond to voice commands. The contract with General Dynamics to develop the prototype EFVs cost the taxpayer $1.2 billion. But now this investment is going to be scrapped. Last year, the Marine Corps announced that the EFVs performed so poorly that the entire system development and demonstration process would have to be redone. This means additional costs to the taxpayer of nearly $1 billion or more and at least three more years of delay. While the project has been a fiasco for the taxpayer, there has been at least one beneficiary: General Dynamics, the prime contractor. The contract for building and testing the prototype was a cost-plus contract, so the company got paid even though the vehicle flunked its tests. Incredibly, General Dynamics even received over $60 million in bonuses for its work on the development contract. What's more, the Marine Corps says that General Dynamics will now get the new contract for $700 to $800 million to build another prototype. The signal that sends is unmistakable: no matter how bad a job you do, there will be no accountability. As we will learn today, the EFV experience appears to be the rule, not the exception. The GAO report that will be the focus of our hearing today looked at 72 weapons programs now underway at the Department. Not every program was as bad as the EFV project. But not a single one had followed the "best practices" recommended by both GAO and the Department of Defense. We need to find a new and better way to procure weapons for our military. Everyone on this Committee wants our military to have the equipment it needs to protect our nation. But we simply cannot afford to continue to waste hundreds of billions of dollars on poorly planned and mismanaged weapons programs. I hope our witnesses today will be able to help us understand what has gone wrong in these programs and what steps can be taken to protect the interests of the American taxpayer. (end of excerpt)

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Des news sur le programme =
Le LPD-20 Green Bay a terminer ces essais le 01 aout, il va rejoindre au début 2009 (pour son intégration dans la navy) , le LPD-18 à San Diego

Le LPD-21 est en cours de finition, il va commencre ses essais l'année prochaine

Les LPD-22, 23 et 24 sont en cours de fabrication chez Northrop Grumman Gulf Coast

Le LPD-17 s'est entrainé avec un ESG avant un premier déploiement.....Prévu ?????

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Le LPD-17 en déploiement dans l'atlantique avec le ESG IWO JIMA (LHD-7 Iwo jima) le 03/09/2008

Autres photos du IWO JIma strike group

Un autre scandale vient d'éclater sur les LPD type San antonio

des fuites d'huile dans le navire
Une honte pour un navire ultra moderne qui n'as pas 2/3 ans de services
quand vous allez voir les photos, vous comprendrez que les soudeurs américains foirent grave leurs boulots parfois

les photos (sous formats PDF)
http://www.militarytimes.com/static/projects/pages/111008sanantonio.pdf

un scandale !

des sanctions finançières pour le chantier constructeur ?????

C'est vrai que ça fait pas très sérieux... Espérons que ce ne sont pas les mêmes gars qui font les installations de sous-marins nucléaires.

là je doute , mais n'empeche que c'ets partout pareil ... les revetement de sol des deux BPC chez vous , ça au USA ... ca va aller de pire en pire car les delais de livraisons vont aller en s'accelerant et les coûts de retard en augmentant , donc on va faire avec des materiaux moins coûteux ou comme pour les BPC en format civil et non plus militaire (dixit les portes comme l'avais fait remarque BILL je pense)

Le premier déploiment du San Diego est calamiteux le navire ayant dû être envoyé 15 jours dans un chantier à Bahrein. pour réparation de tuyauterie........

A priori c'est loin d'être une réussite ces navires avec tous les divers problèmes qu'ils rencontrent;)

Le GREEN BAY est arivé à SAN DIEGO le 17/12/2008 avant d'être mis en service (si tout va bien........) en janvier 2009